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Title: Error on feeder
Post by: PSMike on December 04, 2017, 04:49:52 PM
I have one lane on a feeder with a red X and cannot communicate error, however the lane indexes when I click to index in feeder setup. Anyone have some advice for me to fix this?

It's lane 5 on a 3 16mm & 3 12mm feeder and I need to use it!

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: Error on feeder
Post by: phonoplug on December 04, 2017, 09:01:12 PM
Hi Mike. Can you post a screen shot of that? Only thing I can think of based on what you have described is that perhaps the pick position for that lane is set somewhere that's just out of reach. Is the feeder bank in an end position on the machine, and the lane in question at the very end of the side? I think that might explain the red X, but a screen show would help to confirm that is what its trying to say.

I don't know about the 'cannot communicate error'. That doesn't ring any bells. Again a screen shot of that showing where it comes up would help. The feeders are very dumb and do not have any comms back to the computer, so it can happily operate blissfully unaware that there is not even a feeder attached or working to its instructions.
Title: Re: Error on feeder
Post by: Mike on December 04, 2017, 09:01:38 PM
Just means it has failed to pick for the numbers of retries-just select the lane and do 'clear errors', or the 'clear all errors' in place mode.
Title: Re: Error on feeder
Post by: Mike on December 04, 2017, 09:03:42 PM
Might also be something odd in the feeder def file. Maybe create a new instance of that feeder from the default template
Title: Re: Error on feeder
Post by: PSMike on December 05, 2017, 08:31:21 PM
I have attached some images.

In the placing window after pressing clear all errors, components are green.
In edit feeders the feeders are all OK, but when you close the window the part in the bad lane is marked in red as error.

In setup feeders, the lane is marked with the red cross and the legend says feeder not reachable, but in edit feeders from the place screen clicking the lane indexes the part.

Hope this makes sense.
Title: Re: Error on feeder
Post by: Gopher on December 05, 2017, 11:15:55 PM
Not reachable means for whatever reason the machine believes the pick position for that lane cannot be reached by the place head. This could be because the feeder has moved and needs re-seating and then resetting ref1&2. However it could also be because the machine has used its pick position correction algorithm to move the pick position outside of pick area, that can happen form a poorly designed component definition or you might need to run through the known calibration routine.
Title: Re: Error on feeder
Post by: Jason on December 08, 2017, 08:44:16 PM
IF you edit biases then it should become reachable, unless it isn't
seated in one of the default positions and it truely isn't reachable
due to the arm arc.